Right outside of Atlanta GA is a Walmart that yesterday a mom was shopping at with her 2 yr old little girl. Like most kids she was a little fussy and was crying. Well the crying little girl didn't sit well with this 61 yr old man who walked up to the mom and said "If you don't shut that baby up, I will shut her up for you." after that he proceeded to slap the baby, not once but atleast 4 times. Here is the mug shot of Roger Stephens:
He was booked with felony cruelty to children. ABC news reported that the little girl is doing fine now but the mom is still a little shaken up.
I dunno I think it would take a few cops to pull me off of the guy if that ever happened to me. What makes ppl like that snap? He doesn't look like a very friendly guy but geeze. So what do you think? What would you do?
What makes ppl like that snap?
Playing Devil's Advocate for a minute, some parents will just let their kids run all over the place, and/or just let them scream their little heads off at the top of their lungs in public, with zero regard for anyone else. And there's at least one screaming baby on evey single flight on any given day, where you're stuck for an hour+ in a tube with this kid, so I can see how it would make people irritated enough to freak out. Actually attacking a kid though is a completely different story. I'd probably kill him if he did it to my kid, or even my adult girlfriend, .
oh. my. god. i cannot believe this story!! you just deal with it or leave. you can't tell someone to keep their TWO YEAR OLD quiet!
no there's no playing the devil's advocate here. it's a 2 YR OLD! sometimes it gets to a point where you can 'control them' as much as you could a wild-mad bucking bronco.
i am having a flashback to a few weeks ago at the post office. my kiddo laying on the post office floor kicking and crying because wanted to go (kiddo was tired &hungry). well people had to listen to it for a few minutes while i dealt with the paying of & details of sending something certified mail.
now, if i had been just leisurly strolling the mall (which i don't ) with kiddo and this happened i just would've picked kiddo up and left. but i absolutely had to get something done. so people had to deal with it. tough.
If someone would've done something to my kiddo when i was doing this I would be in jail right now--that's a promise.
~karma: i'm countin on it~
you just deal with it or leave. you can't tell someone to keep their TWO YEAR OLD quiet!
no there's no playing the devil's advocate here. it's a 2 YR OLD!
Then you get into the whole thing of who has more right to be there? The person who is irritated or the person with the screaming kid? Why would the person with the kid always win that standoff? Chances are, the kid was irritating the entire store, not just the one guy, but the one guy was the one who was stupid enough to hit the kid. And what about the people stuck on a plane with a screaming kid? I've personally been on planes like that where the parent wasn't even trying to quiet the kid down. Maybe that was the situation in this story too. The person with a kid isn't always by default, the one in the right.
Well I would say the screaming kid has more rights then a aggressive assaulting shopper. I do understand when a parent has a screaming child they should try and either calm the child or remove the child but I also know its not always possible. At some point in our lives we were all fussy kids I think a little understanding is a good thing. Now not to say that I haven't seen some parents who blatantly ignore their screaming child but never ever would I ever assault the child. As for the plane well I do travel a few times a year with work and pleasure so yes I have experienced the screaming little one. I also know that you can bring the best of child on the plane but when their ears start popping and they don't know how to clear them they can go from good to horrible (in pain mind you) in 2 sec flat. I can tell you that from personal experience flying with my one son when he was like 1 1/2 - 2 yrs old. Great child with a huge set of lungs on the plane. We tried everything from a bottle to a lolly pop to get him to suck and clear the ears - no luck he screamed about 3/4 of the flight
I guess bottom line is its not really a matter of does the parent have the right to shop with a fussy child but should strangers (hell even a non stranger) have the right to every slap around a child? That child was helpless and fussy or not did not deserve to be assaulted. Like I said had that been my child (back then since I have teenagers) I would have laid the guy out on the floor. Hell hath no furry like a pissed off mom!
Well I would say the screaming kid has more rights then a aggressive assaulting shopper.
This is the only sentence that I respectfully disagree with. The screaming, bratty kid and his parent, doesn't have any more rights to be in the Walmart than the idiot who hit him or her. Just has the right not to be smacked. I also think though that NO one in that situation has the right to smack anyone else, even another adult, not just because it was a kid. Kids are definately very hard to control sometimes as you said, so when they start getting out of hand, I think it's more considerate of the parent, if possible, to leave the situation, rather than expect an entire store to be patient with the one kid. Who knows what kind of bad day some people in there may be having, and a parent not controlling a screaming kid might be the straw that breaks a camels back, like this clown. But even if he hadn't assaulted the kid, it's just inconsiderate and for some reason, kids (or parents with kids) are automatically treated like platinum and should automatically win out in any dispute, even if they were wrong.
I am just wondering if there is more to the reported story than shown? Does it make more sense that he just warned and instantly smacked the kid? Probably not. The parent he warned probably took offense and got smart with him and maybe told the kid to keep it up or something, so then it sent him into enough of a rage to actually hit the kid. We have to rememeber, this WAS at a Walmart and we know what kind of people go there sometimes! (See my people of Walmart post)
well when I said that the kid had more rights that was because a person who assaults another has no rights - they lost them. PRIOR to him smacking the child yes they had the same rights to be in the store. I do agree with you if at all possible if a child is really pitching a fit the parent needs to leave if they can not calm down the child. As for not knowing what the situation was in this case, I could care less what the parent says there is NO REASON to smack around a 2 yr old little girl. Not that I'm saying that a mouthy mom is good either but look at that guy - you can tell he has more then a chip on his shoulder.
There is alot of annoying folks at Walmart not just crying babies. Just ask my kids - if there is a fat (as in wider then taller) redneck who happens to be missing all but one tooth in Walmart they will find me, follow me and find a way to ask me out (even though I have my kids with me and I'm wearing a wedding ring). I could do a whole rant on rednecks who look for MILF's in Walmart. To me that is more annoying then a crying kid and yet I have never smacked one (maybe because I think they would like it).
look at the puss on that guys face. I have a feeling he doesn't walk around whistling Dixie all day.
speak for yourself! your avatar says "hit me, i dare ya-- punk!"
~karma: i'm countin on it~
speak for yourself! your avatar says "hit me, i dare ya-- punk!"
I know, I noticed that myself just after posting. That's me givin the stink-eye. Or wait, it might be the Crook-eye.
No, the eeeevil-eye.
That's not my natural look though, I have a feeling it's his. heheh
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Holy cow! can you just imagine... i think after i'd get over the shock of anyone doing that to my kid, let alone a complete stranger, I'd have to be peeled off them... what a jerk, he must be slow or something cos seriously who does that? He looks like a big old crank! So if he was booked for a felony, that means he'll most likely do some time, can't wait to see the outcome of this.