Well the way I see it is if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. I don't really see anything wrong about the bill itself, the problem is, like it always is, is some cop abusing the power he has, I think stopping someone, asking them for ID, seeing the ID then moving on is not a big deal. But of course there will be cops that will harass you just because they can.

hi The Glove

I understand your wanting to take a humanistic approach, but look at it from this perspective;

I don't know if you have children, and a family that you support, but let's for the purposes of this discussion assume that you do. Let's say that you bought a house, that you worked many years for, and will continue to pay for, for years, maybe even the rest of your life. You bought a new car that you make payments on, and so on. You work hard everday to earn money to support yourself, your children and family. You do everything by the book, you pay those expensive taxes Uncle Sam takes from you, those outrageous health insurance payments, those crushing medical bills if you or your family suddenly take ill, and you're barely scratching by, carrying a mountain of debt, as most do ...

So along comes a family of illegal immigrants, usually mostly men btw, and since we're talking about Arizona, we'll say Mexican illegal immigrants in this example, and they decide, against your will, to move into that new house of yours, all 10 of them. Then your boss at your job hears that he can (illegally under the table) hire them all, at half the price you're willing to do the same job, so you get fired and they take your place. Then they become ill, go to the emergency room, take up the emergency room staff's time working on them instead of your 9 year old daughter, when she happens to take ill and end up in that same emergency room 20 minutes later. So she gets worse while they work on those new 'family members' of yours instead, seeing as there's only so many hospital beds and staff there. But it gets better ... once they get all patched up, you get to pay for not only your daughters outrageous medical bills, but also their medical bills. On top of all of this, the rest of the liberal country is actually fighting for them to be allowed to do this to you, and you aren't allowed to kick them out of your house, you simply have to accept it. I think the overall picture should be becoming apparent at this point ...

Sure, you may not actually 'feel' this much direct pain, because you may not have a family to support. The rest of the country helps you pay all of this from the larger pool of taxes instead of directly from your paycheck, and so on, however, we're also talking about MILLIONS of these illigeal immigrants living in the U.S., racing across the border, by the thousands every single day, draining from that large pool of our taxes.

See, there are many ways to cause damage, and it's not always by killing and physical assaults and/or damage. There's also the draining of our economy. There's the ghetto's they inevitably create due to lack of money. There's the loss of property values due to them basically taking over a town or city causing it's residents to essentially flee to other areas, and so on. There's one town near me that was a mixed race town, and a pretty nice one at that, about 10 or more years ago, and now it literally looks like a run down, little Mexico from the influx of illegal immigrants. All of the signs on stores have turned into spanish signs, most of the restaurants have turned into mexican restaurants (the real kind, that sell things like cow tongue, not like a Pepe's or a Taco Bell) and so on. Even the black population is down in that town.

Yes, some of them will work their asses off, but where does that money go? Often times sent back to Mexico to feed their Mexican families. Not spent in the U.S. so at least the sales taxes can go back into our system. And since it's being done under the table, they don't have taxes taken out of their pay, to help support even the smallest thing, such as that visit to the hospital.

No one is arguing about the Mexican (or other nationalities) that come into the country by the book, legally. This is a fight about illegal immigrants, who are basically parasites. And as the above picture shows, where they're flipping off the camera, they often do it defiantly, saying "Screw You America". There is much more to this than just 'racial profiling' and 'harrassing some poor latino walking down the street, minding his own business, whistling dixie' ...